At 01:28 PM 10/19/00 CDT, you wrote:
quoted 10 lines calling all drum and bass shit is like calling all idm shit innit? it>>calling all drum and bass shit is like calling all idm shit innit? it
>>flaunts ignorance anyhow. . .
>
>yep. sure does. good thing i never said that. all i said was that
>usually, self-proclaimed "drum 'n' bass" acts coming out today aren't good,
>or are even shit in fact. and that's something that i believe. i really
>haven't heard a debut d+b artist come out within the last year or so that's
>been worth anything. that's all i said. i'll stand by that. putting words
>into another's mouth flaunts ignorance anyhow. i'll give myself an amen on
>that one.
fine, then. what drum and bass have you heard in the past year that you
didn't like? it's a very general statement that you're making, and until
you name some names i can't help but think that you aren't too clued.
plus, i have a feeling that we might be talking about two separate things.
you consistently refer to datach'i as dnb, yet i don't think that it's
"proper" dnb at all. "proper" dnb is what you find in the dj's bags, and i
haven't ever heard or seen datach'i or his ilk in a dj's bag. sad, maybe,
but true.
having said that, "proper" dnb is in a rather sad state, imho. not to
mince words, it's a fucking fascist boring bunch of crap. the
optical/fierce/ram sound has pretty much supplanted all else. it's not a
bad sound, but when every producer trying to make music "for the dance"
tries to emulate that sound everything gets old. again, this is all just
one guy's opinion. there are guys doing other stuff, namely the guys i
previously mentioned doing the tweaky deconstructed thing, and then guys
like hospital and Intalex doing stuff on the more soulful side. again, i
wouldn't hesitiate to call all of this dnb, but i balk at calling datach'i
dnb.
guy's like datach'i and vat are essentially making wild, bugged out shit
with dnb overtones. not dnb. perhaps the difference is subtle, but it
isn't really to me. i certainly appreciate what they're doing, but calling
it drum and bass is like calling The Who an r&b band, or calling Green Day
a punk band. sure, the influence is there, but they ain't r&b and they
ain't punk.
i really hope this doesn't spurn a response like "why categorize? it's all
music, right?" i know this. but i'm fascinated with formalist thinking in
electronic music. i think that genre has a VERY important role in pop
music (and boy, i can already feel the flames from using THAT word).
-jeff
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